Comments on: And About Time http://www.mythago.com/blog/2008/05/15/and-about-time/ performs a blog dance for your amusement Wed, 08 Feb 2012 18:22:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Roy Kay http://www.mythago.com/blog/2008/05/15/and-about-time/comment-page-1/#comment-96106 Roy Kay Thu, 22 May 2008 13:58:54 +0000 http://www.mythago.com/blog/?p=107#comment-96106 If CA is like OH, that 50% to amend the Constitution is mostly intended to set initiatives above legislation so that a law isn't passed by popular vote one day only to be rescinded by the legislature the next. If a 3-tier system was desired (Consitution/Initiative/Legislature), no one in CA or OH politics seems to have petitioned to make the change. If CA is like OH, that 50% to amend the Constitution is mostly intended to set initiatives above legislation so that a law isn’t passed by popular vote one day only to be rescinded by the legislature the next.

If a 3-tier system was desired (Consitution/Initiative/Legislature), no one in CA or OH politics seems to have petitioned to make the change.

]]> By: mythago http://www.mythago.com/blog/2008/05/15/and-about-time/comment-page-1/#comment-94950 mythago Tue, 20 May 2008 01:27:28 +0000 http://www.mythago.com/blog/?p=107#comment-94950 Bye, dude. People who disagree with the CA Supreme Court's decision are welcome to do so here. People who are blogwhoring, or who don't know anything about the decision but think "judicial activism" is a synonym for "failure of a court to rule my way", aren't. Bye, dude. People who disagree with the CA Supreme Court’s decision are welcome to do so here. People who are blogwhoring, or who don’t know anything about the decision but think “judicial activism” is a synonym for “failure of a court to rule my way”, aren’t.

]]> By: Unseelie http://www.mythago.com/blog/2008/05/15/and-about-time/comment-page-1/#comment-94824 Unseelie Mon, 19 May 2008 18:31:21 +0000 http://www.mythago.com/blog/?p=107#comment-94824 Did you even read the decision Mr. O'Brien? It's pretty darn clear. Equal rights can not be denied on gender under the equal protection clause. Marriage provides certain rights (ex. not needing to file a medical power of attorney in order for your spouse to make medical decisions for you). That is a right that is denied to same sex couples... which is, in fact unconstitutional under the current California Constitution. I hope that the "sanctity of marriage" lobby is putting forth the correct legislation. It's not enough to put a "no same sex marriage" amendment in, as that will create a constitutional conflict. You'll need to amend the Equal Protection Clause to explicitly permit rights to be denied by gender... and I'm not sure you'll get that past the electorate. Did you even read the decision Mr. O’Brien? It’s pretty darn clear. Equal rights can not be denied on gender under the equal protection clause. Marriage provides certain rights (ex. not needing to file a medical power of attorney in order for your spouse to make medical decisions for you). That is a right that is denied to same sex couples… which is, in fact unconstitutional under the current California Constitution.

I hope that the “sanctity of marriage” lobby is putting forth the correct legislation. It’s not enough to put a “no same sex marriage” amendment in, as that will create a constitutional conflict. You’ll need to amend the Equal Protection Clause to explicitly permit rights to be denied by gender… and I’m not sure you’ll get that past the electorate.

]]> By: Robert O'Brien http://www.mythago.com/blog/2008/05/15/and-about-time/comment-page-1/#comment-94502 Robert O'Brien Sun, 18 May 2008 18:25:32 +0000 http://www.mythago.com/blog/?p=107#comment-94502 Unseelie, your stupidity is even more pronounced than that of the average gay "marriage" advocate. We already have the signatures for the amendment and it will be on the ballot in the fall. Prepare to be bitch-slapped back to the unlit corner where you belong. Unseelie, your stupidity is even more pronounced than that of the average gay “marriage” advocate. We already have the signatures for the amendment and it will be on the ballot in the fall. Prepare to be bitch-slapped back to the unlit corner where you belong.

]]> By: Robert O'Brien http://www.mythago.com/blog/2008/05/15/and-about-time/comment-page-1/#comment-94500 Robert O'Brien Sun, 18 May 2008 18:21:57 +0000 http://www.mythago.com/blog/?p=107#comment-94500 Yes, the forces of evil, namely the gay "marriage" lobby, will never stop trying to subvert the democratic process via an activist judiciary. I suggest you read the CA constitution (or, more appropriately, have it read to you.) There is nothing therein that requires gay "marriage," the liberal eisegesis of George and Moreno notwithstanding. Yes, the forces of evil, namely the gay “marriage” lobby, will never stop trying to subvert the democratic process via an activist judiciary. I suggest you read the CA constitution (or, more appropriately, have it read to you.) There is nothing therein that requires gay “marriage,” the liberal eisegesis of George and Moreno notwithstanding.

]]> By: mythago http://www.mythago.com/blog/2008/05/15/and-about-time/comment-page-1/#comment-93978 mythago Fri, 16 May 2008 20:58:48 +0000 http://www.mythago.com/blog/?p=107#comment-93978 What pantload decided simple majority was enough to amend a state Constitution? What pantload decided simple majority was enough to amend a state Constitution?

]]> By: Unseelie http://www.mythago.com/blog/2008/05/15/and-about-time/comment-page-1/#comment-93975 Unseelie Fri, 16 May 2008 20:24:54 +0000 http://www.mythago.com/blog/?p=107#comment-93975 Oops, left out the details... 8% to get an amendment on the ballot. Simple majority to pass. :( Oops, left out the details… 8% to get an amendment on the ballot. Simple majority to pass. :(

]]> By: Unseelie http://www.mythago.com/blog/2008/05/15/and-about-time/comment-page-1/#comment-93973 Unseelie Fri, 16 May 2008 20:23:49 +0000 http://www.mythago.com/blog/?p=107#comment-93973 I think I'd like to rescind my "Bring it" comment... I was not aware that it was so appallingly easy to amend the CA Constitution. About the only plus I can see is that it seems like they would need to specifically amend the Equal Protection Clause to avoid creating yet another legal contradiction... I think. I think I’d like to rescind my “Bring it” comment… I was not aware that it was so appallingly easy to amend the CA Constitution. About the only plus I can see is that it seems like they would need to specifically amend the Equal Protection Clause to avoid creating yet another legal contradiction… I think.

]]> By: Mighty Ponygirl http://www.mythago.com/blog/2008/05/15/and-about-time/comment-page-1/#comment-93808 Mighty Ponygirl Fri, 16 May 2008 12:28:33 +0000 http://www.mythago.com/blog/?p=107#comment-93808 In a way, I'm a little worried that this was ruled on during an election year -- it's going to fire up the fundie base and get them out to the polls this November to vote for McCain. In a way, I’m a little worried that this was ruled on during an election year — it’s going to fire up the fundie base and get them out to the polls this November to vote for McCain.

]]> By: Unseelie http://www.mythago.com/blog/2008/05/15/and-about-time/comment-page-1/#comment-93779 Unseelie Fri, 16 May 2008 00:53:49 +0000 http://www.mythago.com/blog/?p=107#comment-93779 Oh, and I also assume that someone will eventually try to challenge DOMA and the Supremes will continue to dodge the issue. Oh, and I also assume that someone will eventually try to challenge DOMA and the Supremes will continue to dodge the issue.

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